Used

2014 Club Car Carry All 300 Electric Utility Vehicle

2014 Club Car Carry All 300 48 Volt Electric Utility Vehicle.

$6,750.00 CAD
$5,231.25 USD

Unit #: 2557
Year: 2014
Make & Model:  Club Car    Carry All 300
Hours: 3099


Aerway 3pth Aerator

Aerway 3 point hitch Aerator. 60" working width with sport tines and fine tine assemblies.

$7,500.00 CAD
$5,812.50 USD

Unit #: 2592
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Aerway    AWG060O-2F36-D
Hours: N/A


Aerway 3pth Slicer 60″

Aerway 3pth Slicer 60" with fine tine, rear roller and water tank ballast. Excellent condition.

$6,500.00 CAD
$5,037.50 USD

Unit #: 2596
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Aerway    AWGH3-60-IS5ZBG
Hours: N/A


Aerway Tow Behind Aerator

Aerway tow behind aerator. Hydraulic lift with fine tine assembly. With new fine tines and sport tine assembly.

$9,500.00 CAD
$7,362.50 USD

Unit #: 2593
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Aerway    AWG060H-1F06-D
Hours: N/A


Aerway Tow Behind Aerator

Aerway tow behind aerator. Hydraulic lift, 60" working width with sports tines.

$7,500.00 CAD
$5,812.50 USD

Unit #: 2591
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Aerway    AW060H-1B17-D
Hours: N/A


Bluebird S22H5DA Walk Behind Verticutter Overseeder

Bluebird S22H5DA Walk Behind Verticutter Overseeder. 5.5 Honda engine.

$1,750.00 CAD
$1,356.25 USD

Unit #: 2584
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Bluebird    S22H5DA
Hours: N/A


Bob Cat Zero Turn w/61″ SD Deck

2013 Bob Cat Pro Cat Zero Turn. 61" Side Discharge Deck with Kawasaki engine.

$5,500.00 CAD
$4,262.50 USD

Unit #: 2292
Year: 2013
Make & Model:  Bob Cat    94250J
Hours: N/A


Club Car Cafe Express

2016 Club Car Cafe Express, gas engine.

$15,500.00 CAD
$12,012.50 USD

Unit #: 2577
Year: 2016
Make & Model:  Club Car    N/A
Hours: 1355


Club Car Cafe Express

2015 Club Car Cafe Express, gas engine.

$14,500.00 CAD
$11,237.50 USD

Unit #: 2576
Year: 2015
Make & Model:  Club Car    N/A
Hours: 2084


Club Car Carry All 500 Utility Vehicle

2015 Club Car Carry All 500 Utility Vehicle. New Trojan batteries.

$9,500.00 CAD
$7,362.50 USD

Unit #: 2333
Year: 2015
Make & Model:  Club Car    N/A
Hours: N/A


Club Car Carry All 500 Utility Vehicle w/ball picker cage

2017 Club Car Carry All 500 Utility Vehicle with 1565 hours. Factory ball picker cage. EFI Gas Engine.

$16,500.00 CAD
$12,787.50 USD

Unit #: 2588
Year: 2017
Make & Model:  Club Car    Carry All 500
Hours: 1565


EZGO MPT1200 Utility Vechile

2008 EZGO MPT1200 Utility Vehicle. Twin cylinder gas engine. Good running condition.

$6,950.00 CAD
$5,386.25 USD

Unit #: 2511
Year: 2008
Make & Model:  EZGO    MPT1200
Hours: N/A


EZGO MPT1200 Utility Vehicle

2008 EZGO MPT1200 Utility Vehicle with 1344 hours. Twin cylinder gas engine with electric dump and roof.

$7,750.00 CAD
$6,006.25 USD

Unit #: 2508
Year: 2008
Make & Model:  EZGO    MPT1200
Hours: 1344


EZGO MPT1200 Utility Vehicle

2006 EZGO MPT1200 Utility Vehicle. Twin cylinder gas engine.

$7,500.00 CAD
$5,812.50 USD

Unit #: 2512
Year: 2006
Make & Model:  EZGO    MPT1200
Hours: N/A


EZGO MPT1200 Utility Vehicle

2007 EZGO MPT1200 Utility Vehicle. Twin cylinder gas engine. Good running condition.

$7,500.00 CAD
$5,812.50 USD

Unit #: 2510
Year: 2007
Make & Model:  EZGO    MPT1200
Hours: N/A


EZGO MPT1200 Utility Vehicle

2008 EZGO MPT1200 Utility Vehicle. Twin cylinder gas engine. Good working condition.

$7,500.00 CAD
$5,812.50 USD

Unit #: 2509
Year: 2008
Make & Model:  EZGO    MPT1200
Hours: N/A


EZGO MPT800 Utility Vehicle

2006 EZGO MPT 800 Utility Vehicle w/1513 hours. Twin cylinder gas engine.

$6,500.00 CAD
$5,037.50 USD

Unit #: 2513
Year: 2006
Make & Model:  EZGO    MPT800
Hours: 1513


Husqvarna FS400LV Floor Saw

Husqvarna FS400LV Floor Saw. 14" diamond blade. Good condition.

$2,750.00 CAD
$2,131.25 USD

Unit #: 2282
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Husqvarna    FS400LV
Hours: N/A


Jacobsen GKIV Plus Riding Greensmower

Jacobsen GKIV Plus Riding Greensmower. Brand new 18hp Vanguard engine, rebuilt valve bank and rebuilt hydraulic pump. 11 blade reels.

$24,950.00 CAD
$19,336.25 USD

Unit #: 2400
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Jacobsen    62306
Hours: 2401


Jacobsen GKIV Plus Riding Greensmower

2012 Jacobsen GKIV Plus Riding Greensmower. 18hp Briggs Vanguard engine with 11 blade reels.

$19,750.00 CAD
$15,306.25 USD

Unit #: 2399
Year: 2012
Make & Model:  Jacobsen    62306
Hours: N/A


Jacobsen Mower Caddy

Brand New Jacobsen Mower Caddy.

$500.00 CAD
$387.50 USD

Unit #: N/A
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Jacobsen    N/A
Hours: N/A


Jacobsen Triking 1900 32″ Cutting Units

Set of 3 Jacobsen Triking 1900 32" Cutting Units, 5 Blade.

$3,500.00 CAD
$2,712.50 USD

Unit #: 2471
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Jacobsen    67120,67121,67122
Hours: N/A


Jacobsen Verticutters

Jacobsen set of 3 Verticutters. New condition.

$2,750.00 CAD
$2,131.25 USD

Unit #: 760
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Jacobsen    67138
Hours: N/A


Jacobsen XD Box

Jacobsen XD Heavy Duty Utility Vehicle box, new condition.

$2,500.00 CAD
$1,937.50 USD

Unit #: 2542
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Jacobsen    XD
Hours: N/A


John Deere 180SL Walking Greensmower

2013 John Deere 180SL 18" Walking Greensmower. Demo condition.

$3,750.00 CAD
$2,906.25 USD

Unit #: 2183
Year: 2013
Make & Model:  John Deere    180SL
Hours: N/A


John Deere 2020A Progator Utility Vehicle

2012 John Deere 2020A Progator Utility Vehicle with 2032 hours.

$24,500.00 CAD
$18,987.50 USD

Unit #: 2533
Year: 2012
Make & Model:  John Deere    2020A
Hours: 2032


John Deere 7500A Fairway Mower

2016 John Deere 7500A 4wd Fairway Mower with 2467 hours.

$24,500.00 CAD
$18,987.50 USD

Unit #: 2539
Year: 2016
Make & Model:  John Deere    7500A
Hours: 2467


John Deere TX Gator Utility Vehicle

2016 John Deere TX Gator Utility Vehicle with 317 hours. Electric dump, excellent condition.

$12,750.00 CAD
$9,881.25 USD

Unit #: 2598
Year: 2016
Make & Model:  John Deere    TX Gator
Hours: 317


Kubota L3560 Tractor w/LA555 Loader

2018 Kubota L3560 Hydrostat Tractor with 785 hours. 37hp engine with cab, heat, air. New LA555 Loader.

$36,500.00 CAD
$28,287.50 USD

Unit #: 2285
Year: 2018
Make & Model:  Kubota    L3560
Hours: 785


Land Pride Rotary Mower

Land Pride 11' Tow Behind Rotary Mower, 10" caster wheels.

$8,500.00 CAD
$6,587.50 USD

Unit #: 2114
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Land Pride    AFM4211
Hours: N/A


Lely 1250L 3pth Fertilizer Spreader

Lely 1250L 3pth Fertilizer Spreader.

$3,750.00 CAD
$2,906.25 USD

Unit #: 2534
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Lely    1250L
Hours: N/A


Lely HR 3pth Fertilizer Spreader

Lely HR 3pth Fertilizer Spreader, never used.

$7,500.00 CAD
$5,812.50 USD

Unit #: 2526
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Lely    HR
Hours: N/A


Mower King 83″ 3pth Rototiller – Brand New

Mower King 83" 3pth Rototiller. Brand New.

$2,750.00 CAD
$2,131.25 USD

Unit #: 2547
Year: 2023
Make & Model:  Mower King    TAS81
Hours: N/A


New Buffalo Debris Blower

New BT-CKB6 Cyclone Debris Blower. Heavy duty air cleaner and maintenance meter.
Kohler engine with wireless remote. Throttle and auto nozzle position system.

$13,500.00 CAD
$10,462.50 USD

Unit #: N/A
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Buffalo    CKB6
Hours: N/A


New Jacobsen Greensking 5/6 Verticut Heads

New Jacobsen Greensking 5/6 Verticut Heads. Set of 3

$3,000.00 CAD
$2,325.00 USD

Unit #: 2472
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Jacbosen    67893
Hours: N/A


New R&R Double Greensmower Trailer

New R & R Double Greensmower Trailer - 22" Black
Transports two 22" Greensmowers. Bed Size 37 1/2" side to side by 52" front to back.
2 currently available
$ 3,100.00 each FOB Petrolia

$3,100.00 CAD
$2,402.50 USD

Unit #: N/A
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  R & R    RQC200
Hours: N/A


Progressive PF120

2014 Progressive PF120. 120" cut, 5 individual decks. Good condition.

$11,500.00 CAD
$8,912.50 USD

Unit #: 1964
Year: 2014
Make & Model:  Progressive    PF120
Hours: N/A


Redexim Verti-Seeder 004-1204

Redexim 004-1204 Verti-Seeder 3 point hitch overseeder.

$7,500.00 CAD
$5,812.50 USD

Unit #: 2498
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Redexim    004-1204
Hours: N/A


Ryan Greensaire 24 Aerator

2001 Ryan Greensaire 24 Aerator with 8hp Kohler engine.

$3,500.00 CAD
$2,712.50 USD

Unit #: 2177
Year: 2001
Make & Model:  Ryan    GA24
Hours: N/A


Ryan Jr Sod Cutter

Ryan Jr Sod Cutter.

$4,950.00 CAD
$3,836.25 USD

Unit #: 2549
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Ryan    Jr
Hours: N/A


Ryan Lawnaire IV Walk Behind Aerator

Ryan Lawnaire IV Walk Behind Aerator. 4hp Honda engine. Demo condition.

$3,950.00 CAD
$3,061.25 USD

Unit #: 2355
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Ryan    544908A
Hours: N/A


Ryan Sod Cutter Trailer

Ryan Sod Cutter Trailer

$500.00 CAD
$387.50 USD

Unit #: N/A
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Ryan    N/A
Hours: N/A


Set of 5 John Deere Cutting Units

Set of 5 7 blade John Deere Fairway Cutting Units. 80% reel life.

$5,000.00 CAD
$3,875.00 USD

Unit #: N/A
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  John Deere    N/A
Hours: N/A


Smithco Tournament Ultra Greens Roller

2008 Smithco Tournament Ultra Greens Roller with trailer. 1235 hours, 16hp Vanguard engine.

$6,500.00 CAD
$5,037.50 USD

Unit #: 2074
Year: 2008
Make & Model:  Smithco    7540D
Hours: 1235


Tan Cooler Insert

Tan Cooler Insert
44" wide x 34 1/2" long x 12" high to lip
2 Available
$750.00 each

$750.00 CAD
$581.25 USD

Unit #: 2188,2189
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  N/A    N/A
Hours: N/A


Toro 30″ Turfmaster HDX Rotary Mower

2019 Toro 30" Turfmaster HDX Rotary Mower.

$2,250.00 CAD
$1,743.75 USD

Unit #: 2594
Year: 2019
Make & Model:  Toro    22215
Hours: N/A


Toro 7000 Diesel ZMaster Rotary Mower

2016 Toro 7000 Diesel ZMaster Rotary Mower with 1360 hours. 25hp Kubota diesel engine. 72" side discharge deck.

$11,500.00 CAD
$8,912.50 USD

Unit #: 2578
Year: 2016
Make & Model:  Toro    74274
Hours: 1360


Toro Diesel 7000 ZMaster Rotary Mower

2016 Toro 7000 Diesel ZMaster Rotary Mower with 1102 hours. 25hp Kubota diesel engine. 72" side discharge deck.

$12,500.00 CAD
$9,687.50 USD

Unit #: 2579
Year: 2016
Make & Model:  Toro    74274
Hours: 1102


Toro DPA 11 Blade Cutting Units

2012 Toro DPA 11 Blade Cutting Units (set of 3). New front rollers, bearings and seals. Sharpened, 80% reel life.

$8,500.00 CAD
$6,587.50 USD

Unit #: 2572
Year: 2012
Make & Model:  Toro    04619
Hours: N/A


Toro DPA 14 Blade Edge Series Cutting Units

2016 Toro 14 Blade DPA Edge Series cutting units in excellent condition. Sharpened and ready to mow.

$8,500.00 CAD
$6,587.50 USD

Unit #: 2430
Year: 2016
Make & Model:  Toro    04656
Hours: N/A


Toro DPA Cutting Units

Used set of 3 Toro 04610 DPA Cutting Units. Sharpened and ready to go.

$6,000.00 CAD
$4,650.00 USD

Unit #: N/A
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Toro    04610
Hours: N/A


Toro DPA Cutting Units

Used set of 3 Toro 04611 DPA Cutting Units. Sharpened and ready to go.

$6,000.00 CAD
$4,650.00 USD

Unit #: N/A
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Toro    04611
Hours: N/A


Toro Flex 2100 Walking Greensmower

2014 Toro Flex 2100 Walking Greensmower with 1004 hours. Excellent condition.

$5,950.00 CAD
$4,611.25 USD

Unit #: 2437
Year: 2014
Make & Model:  Toro    04040
Hours: 1004


Toro GR3150 Riding Greensmower

2002 Toro GR3150 Riding Greensmower. New engine, new seat, new hydraulic hoses and bushings. 11 blade reels.

$27,500.00 CAD
$21,312.50 USD

Unit #: 2200
Year: 2002
Make & Model:  Toro    04357
Hours: N/A


Toro Grandstand Rotary Mower

2014 Toro Grandstand Rotary Mower with 1288 hours. Multi Force Kohler engine EFI with 52" Pro Force side discharge deck.

$9,500.00 CAD
$7,362.50 USD

Unit #: 2022
Year: 2014
Make & Model:  Toro    74529
Hours: 1288


Toro Greensmaster 3100 Riding Greensmower

2001 Toro Greensmaster 3100 Riding Greensmower with 3872 hours. 18hp. Traction unit only.

$2,750.00 CAD
$2,131.25 USD

Unit #: 2368
Year: 2001
Make & Model:  Toro    04356
Hours: 3872


Toro Groundsmaster 3280 with Snowblower

2015 Toro Groundsmaster 3280 4wd with 2603 hours. 28hp Kubota diesel engine. Full cab with heat, 52" Erskine Snowblower with hydraulic chute. No deck.

$21,500.00 CAD
$16,662.50 USD

Unit #: N/A
Year: 2015
Make & Model:  Toro    30345
Hours: 2603


Toro Groundsmaster 3500D Rotary Mower

2016 Toro GM3500D Rotary Mower with 2869 hours. Kubota diesel engine.

$29,750.00 CAD
$23,056.25 USD

Unit #: 2590
Year: 2016
Make & Model:  Toro    30807
Hours: 2869


Toro Groundsmaster 3500D Rotary Mower

2008 Toro Groundsmaster 3500D Rotary Mower with 2934 hours. 35hp Kubota diesel engine.

$29,500.00 CAD
$22,862.50 USD

Unit #: 2530
Year: 2008
Make & Model:  Toro    30839
Hours: 2934


Toro Groundsmaster 3500D Rotary Mower

2012 Toro Groundsmaster 3500D Rotary Mower with 4999 hours. 35hp Kubota diesel engine.

$19,500.00 CAD
$15,112.50 USD

Unit #: 2518
Year: 2012
Make & Model:  Toro    30839
Hours: 4999


Toro Groundsmaster 3500D Rotary Mower

2010 Toro Groundsmaster 3500D Rotary Mower with 4870 hours. 35hp Kubota diesel engine.

$19,500.00 CAD
$15,112.50 USD

Unit #: 2517
Year: 2010
Make & Model:  Toro    30838
Hours: 4870


Toro Groundsmaster 4500 Rotary Mower

2013 Toro Groundsmaster 4500 Rotary Mower with 3307 hours. Fully serviced and ready to mow. 5 brand new rear rollers.

$49,750.00 CAD
$38,556.25 USD

Unit #: 2328
Year: 2013
Make & Model:  Toro    30881
Hours: 3307


Toro Groundsmaster 4500D Rotary Mower

2012 Toro GM4500D Rotary Mower with 3358 hrs. Kubota diesel engine. Fully serviced, ready to mow.

$49,750.00 CAD
$38,556.25 USD

Unit #: 2550
Year: 2012
Make & Model:  Toro    30857
Hours: 3358


Toro Groundsmaster 4500D Rotary Mower

2010 Toro Groundsmaster 4500D Rotary Mower with 3878 hours. Kubota diesel engine.

$42,500.00 CAD
$32,937.50 USD

Unit #: 2532
Year: 2010
Make & Model:  Toro    30857
Hours: 3878


Toro GTX Beverage Unit

2019 Toro GTX Beverage Cart with 401 hrs. Beverage unit with cash drawer.

$17,500.00 CAD
$13,562.50 USD

Unit #: 2568
Year: 2019
Make & Model:  Toro    07059
Hours: 401


Toro GTX Electric Workman Utility Vehicle

2017 Toro GTX Electric Workman Utility Vehicle. Excellent condition.

$7,950.00 CAD
$6,161.25 USD

Unit #: 2540
Year: 2017
Make & Model:  Toro    07043
Hours: N/A


Toro HDX Workman Utility Vehicle

2013 Toro HDX Workman Utility Vehicle with 1965 hours. Liquid cooled gas engine with high flow hydraulics.

$28,500.00 CAD
$22,087.50 USD

Unit #: 2586
Year: 2013
Make & Model:  Toro    07370
Hours: 1965


Toro Procore 864 Aerator

2011 Toro Procore 864 3pth Aerator with 4 tine heads.

$25,500.00 CAD
$19,762.50 USD

Unit #: 2410
Year: 2011
Make & Model:  Toro    09715
Hours: N/A


Toro Procore Processor

2008 Toro Procore Processor. 35hp Vanguard engine. Carbide blades in good condition. Unit is in excellent condition.

$4,500.00 CAD
$3,487.50 USD

Unit #: 2276
Year: 2008
Make & Model:  Toro    09749
Hours: N/A


Toro Reelmaster 5210D Fairway Mower

2011 Toro Reelmaster 5210D Fairway Mower with 3254 hours. Kubota diesel engine.

$24,500.00 CAD
$18,987.50 USD

Unit #: 2538
Year: 2011
Make & Model:  Toro    03660
Hours: 3254


Toro Reelmaster 5410 Fairway Mower

2009 Toro Reelmaster 5410 Fairway Mower with 5974 hours. 4wd, 60% reel life and rear power brushes.

$15,750.00 CAD
$12,206.25 USD

Unit #: 2330
Year: 2009
Make & Model:  Toro    03670
Hours: 5974


Toro Sand Pro 5020 Bunker Rake

2002 Toro Sand Pro 5020 Bunker Rake with 2839 hours. Newer 18hp engine.

$8,500.00 CAD
$6,587.50 USD

Unit #: 2499
Year: 2002
Make & Model:  Toro    08886
Hours: 2839


Toro Sand Pro 5040 Bunker Rake

2011 Toro SP5040 Bunker Rake with 1300 hours. Hydraulic front blade, mid scarifier and rear rake.

$31,500.00 CAD
$24,412.50 USD

Unit #: 2589
Year: 2011
Make & Model:  Toro    08705
Hours: 1300


Toro Sand Pro Spiker

Toro Sand Pro Spiker

$1,250.00 CAD
$968.75 USD

Unit #: 2502
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Toro    08856
Hours: N/A


Toro Slide In Beverage Insert

Toro Slide in Beverage Insert

$1,850.00 CAD
$1,433.75 USD

Unit #: 2326
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Toro    N/A
Hours: N/A


Toro Trans Pro 100 Walking Greensmower Trailer

2002 Toro Trans Pro 100 Walking Greensmower Trailer. Hold 2 Walkers.

$1,450.00 CAD
$1,123.75 USD

Unit #: 2447
Year: 2002
Make & Model:  Toro    04240
Hours: N/A


Toro Trans Pro 80 Walking Greensmower Trailer

2016 Toro Trans Pro 80 Walking Greensmower Trailer. With rail ramp kit.

$950.00 CAD
$736.25 USD

Unit #: 2535
Year: 2016
Make & Model:  Toro    04238
Hours: N/A


Toro Tri Rollers (set of 3)

Toro Tri Rollers (set of 3).

$2,950.00 CAD
$2,286.25 USD

Unit #: 2403
Year: 2003
Make & Model:  Toro    04495
Hours: N/A


Toro Workman HDX Utility Vehicle

2009 Toro Workman HDX Utility Vehicle with 2500 hours. 4wd, diesel engine.

$19,500.00 CAD
$15,112.50 USD

Unit #: 2551
Year: 2009
Make & Model:  Toro    07371
Hours: 2500


Tru Surface Vibe V Vibratory Rollers

Tru Surface Vibe V Vibratory Rollers currently set up to fit Toro Triplex.

$5,750.00 CAD
$4,456.25 USD

Unit #: 2497
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Tru Surface    Vibe V
Hours: N/A


Tru Turf Greens Roller

Tru Turf Greens Roller, 48" with Honda engine.

$5,500.00 CAD
$4,262.50 USD

Unit #: 2529
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Tru Turf    RB48-11A
Hours: N/A


Tru Turf RS48-11D Greens Roller

Tru Turf RS48-11D Greens Roller with Honda engine. 48" working width.

$7,500.00 CAD
$5,812.50 USD

Unit #: 2290
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Tru Turf    RS48-11D
Hours: N/A


Turf Works T.W. TM Cartridge System-Jacobsen Triplex

2005 Turf Works cartridge system. Vibratory and carbide tip cartridges included. Like new condition. Currently set up for Jacobsen Triplex.

$4,500.00 CAD
$3,487.50 USD

Unit #: 1282
Year: 2005
Make & Model:  Turf Works    T.W. TM
Hours: N/A


Used Toro Reelmaster 5410 Boxer Cage

Used Toro Reelmaster 5410 Boxer Cage.

$2,000.00 CAD
$1,550.00 USD

Unit #: N/A
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Toro    N/A
Hours: N/A


Wood Bay Greens Iron 3900 Roller

Greens Iron 3900 Greens Roller with Honda engine and trailer. Excellent condition.

$4,500.00 CAD
$3,487.50 USD

Unit #: 2531
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Wood Bay    Greens Iron 3900
Hours: N/A


Yamaha Omnicube Beverage Cooler Insert

Yamaha Omnicube Beverage Cooler Insert.

$1,500.00 CAD
$1,162.50 USD

Unit #: 2198
Year: N/A
Make & Model:  Yamaha    TR14-Y
Hours: N/A